It’s applicable that Marlon Williams is chilling in a rocking chair after we discuss. The one furnishings extra suited to his heady and breezy third solo album, My Boy, could be a hammock. The title observe is an ideal indication: a good-times radio hit, or “Māori disco bop” as Williams places it, set to guitar played in Māori strum style (also referred to as jingajik, jungajuka and dumdejak, from which you little doubt get the thought). It’s a welcome salve after just a few stagnant years, wherein he – like most musicians – couldn’t tour his final launch. What’s extra, it looks like a huge-hearted album.
“That makes me very glad,” Williams says, after I say so. “I needed it to be involved and loving, and hold the arms of the file open. I can’t assist however write darkish songs more often than not, so I arrange the world round me to ensure I saved it upbeat.”
To this finish, My Boy is adorned with trinkets equivalent to an arpeggiated synth, a mellotron (beloved by XTC, the Bee Gees and the Beatles) and a tropical-tinged pedal metal, in addition to the kind of expressive percussion that made The White Lotus soundtrack such a delight. You’re prone to hear kaleidoscopic notes of the Byrds and the Beatles, but additionally the arch pop confidence of Duran Duran and nods to Paul Simon and Elvis, all lovingly woven in amongst these Māori parts. (Williams is of Ngāi Tahu and Ngāi Tai descent and is planning an album of Māori-language music subsequent.)
All of this can be a large change for the artist recognized for homicide ballads and nation crooning – and it’s not the one change, both. When Covid hit, Williams moved house to Christchurch after dwelling in Melbourne for years, and acquired a home to dwell in together with his father, additionally a musician. Now he’s trying ahead to kitting the place out, having returned from a global tour with Lorde, enjoying castles and colosseums. Lorde was selling her album Solar Power, which Williams describes as a love album about New Zealand, and he was discovering himself pulled that method too.
“A variety of my file is about discovering your self again house the place issues are easygoing and there’s a seashore inside 100 miles of any spot,” he says. “It’s humorous, as a result of we each put out breakup information in 2018 after which put out sunny New Zealand information just a few years later.”

Group singing has been central to Williams’ life. He likens it to a religious observe, “with out the speculation or having to fret about its tangential relationship to actuality”. Upon first play of My Boy there’s each likelihood you’ll end up harmonising. You possibly can nearly hear the woosh of oxytocin.
“There’s nothing prefer it,” Williams says. “I first began singing within the choir after I was a child and I believed, that is unimaginable, that is all that issues. Why is anybody doing the rest? Then I joined the cathedral choir and I received extra into my Māori aspect, the place sharing one voice is such an integral a part of life. Just about each world I’ve delved into musically – nation, bluegrass – has been primarily based round concord singing.”
When the pandemic hit, as researchers wrote in the Conversation, “One of the vital encouraging phenomena we’ve got begun to see in response to social distancing legal guidelines are the revolutionary ways in which persons are beginning to bond with one another, significantly musically.” There have been viral movies of neighbours singing together on their balconies in locked-down nations equivalent to Italy, and folks assembly up on Zoom to sing in teams. Extra lately, Brisbane’s Pub Choir swelled to 1,600 folks, gathering to sing Kate Bush’s 1985 hit Running Up That Hill. The efficiency resonated globally and even prompted Bush to jot down them an emotional message.
“I believe it’s thrilling that we’re going again to the tribal parts of group singing as a result of it’s clearly so important to us,” Williams says. “Music remedy is just rising as a instrument. It staves off dementia and does all these unimaginable issues.”
For Williams, enjoying with different musicians supplies the same shortcut to intimacy. Even when the music is maudlin, harmonising looks like the burden of disappointment is shared. “Being on the high of 1 bar and somebody and being like, I’m wondering if we’re gonna … after which yeah! There’s some semi-telepathic magic that occurs and it’s simply euphoric,” he says. “It’s an unfolding world that’s larger than the sum of its components. It makes you fall in love with folks.”

This time round, Williams left his typical band, the Yarra Benders, in Melbourne (although they’ll tour My Boy with him). The disadvantage of working with outdated pals is that they’ll predict what they assume you need; as a substitute, he recorded in New Zealand with a brand new crew.
“I needed to be the brand new child in school,” Williams says. “I needed to have the ability to make up full lies to those folks after which attempt to maintain it collectively till they came upon the reality, only for the sake of having the ability to reinvent myself.”
There are a lot of faces to Williams. He’s at all times had a penchant for making theatrical movies to accompany his singles. “I simply love dreaming up silly concepts,” he says. “Particularly in the event that they shift the context of the tune and muddy the waters” and his aspect hustle as an actor has developed right into a secondary profession. Amongst his TV and movie credit are A Star is Born, The Lovely Lie, Candy Tooth, True Historical past of the Kelly Gang, Unhealthy Behaviour and Lone Wolf. And on My Boy – on which he’s seen an inadvertent theme of older brother mentor figures – he inhabits many characters and voices.
“There are a few private pleas out to the world on the file, that’s for certain, however in any other case I’m posturing throughout most it,” he says. “A pal of mine hit me up about [single] Pondering of Nina the opposite day, and stated, ‘You already know life’s not really like that?’ I stated, ‘Yeah, I do know. That man’s an arsehole, I’m not that man. Please don’t align me with him.’ Generally I fret about whether or not I should be extra specific about that stuff.”
The album closes with Guarantees; a pathos-driven observe that could be very totally different in spirit and magnificence to the remainder. I’m curious as to why he selected to conclude in such a method.
“There’s an earnestness to that tune,” Williams says. “It’s an out-and-out love tune, and it was my method of presenting to the viewers the concept the file was made with love and there’s in the end no cynicism right here. Every part is allowed. It was an announcement to the viewers to say, ‘I’m with you within the trenches.’”
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My Boy is out on 9 September (Lifeless Oceans). Marlon Williams is touring the US in September, then UK and Europe in October and November.